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		<title>Comment on Lunar Exploration: Riding White Mesa, NM. by While Out Riding</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks very much Mike. Not sure when I&#039;ll be that way again, but there&#039;s still so much to discover in Colorado so I hope to make it back at some point...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much Mike. Not sure when I&#8217;ll be that way again, but there&#8217;s still so much to discover in Colorado so I hope to make it back at some point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot springs and Humperdinck: dirt roads to Idyllwild, CA by While Out Riding</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment. Have a great time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. Have a great time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on gear by While Out Riding</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I moved over to a two piece crankset when I was back in the UK. I had a spare SLX, so figured I&#039;d give it a go as an experiment, seeing as I need to fit a new bottom bracket anyway. I&#039;m still a big fan of square taper, especially if you can get your hands on Shimano&#039;s UN72. The only issue I did find, though, is that sourcing square taper bottom brackets isn&#039;t as easy as it used to be - finding the right size (73mm for the Troll/Ogre) and width - dependant on your cranks - can be problematic. Most places I went to had 68mm shell bottom brackets, or spindles that were too narrow. 

I don&#039;t expect outboard bearings to last as long - I&#039;ve already gone through my first set - but every good bike shop I&#039;ve been to in Latin America&#039;s larger cities stocks them. They&#039;re easy to fit, and light to carry if you want to pack a spare. And they&#039;re cross compatible, as it&#039;s simply a case of adjusting the spacers to fit the cranks you have. 

If you&#039;re feeling flush, the bearings from Phil Woods can be removed and changed from the cups without a tool, which is cool for touring. They should last a lot longer too. 

http://www.philwood.com/products/bbpages/outboard.php

Anyway, those are my thoughts on the matter. 

And yes, I needed to get the Troll&#039;s BB faced, which is a quick job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved over to a two piece crankset when I was back in the UK. I had a spare SLX, so figured I&#8217;d give it a go as an experiment, seeing as I need to fit a new bottom bracket anyway. I&#8217;m still a big fan of square taper, especially if you can get your hands on Shimano&#8217;s UN72. The only issue I did find, though, is that sourcing square taper bottom brackets isn&#8217;t as easy as it used to be &#8211; finding the right size (73mm for the Troll/Ogre) and width &#8211; dependant on your cranks &#8211; can be problematic. Most places I went to had 68mm shell bottom brackets, or spindles that were too narrow. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect outboard bearings to last as long &#8211; I&#8217;ve already gone through my first set &#8211; but every good bike shop I&#8217;ve been to in Latin America&#8217;s larger cities stocks them. They&#8217;re easy to fit, and light to carry if you want to pack a spare. And they&#8217;re cross compatible, as it&#8217;s simply a case of adjusting the spacers to fit the cranks you have. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re feeling flush, the bearings from Phil Woods can be removed and changed from the cups without a tool, which is cool for touring. They should last a lot longer too. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.philwood.com/products/bbpages/outboard.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.philwood.com/products/bbpages/outboard.php</a></p>
<p>Anyway, those are my thoughts on the matter. </p>
<p>And yes, I needed to get the Troll&#8217;s BB faced, which is a quick job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lunar Exploration: Riding White Mesa, NM. by While Out Riding</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a plan!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a plan!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lunar Exploration: Riding White Mesa, NM. by While Out Riding</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t tried to Woodchippers, though I heard good things. The only potential issue I see is the extra reach you&#039;d get from running a drop bar on a bike designed for flat bars - it might end up being quite a reach. And getting the height of the bars right so the drops are useful. Maybe you could experiment with a shorter stem, steeper stem.  

I prefer the aluminium H Loop bars over the Titecs, though they&#039;re more expensive. As far as I know, these bars are wider too, and should work fine with rapid fire shifters. The downside of the design is if you want to run a bar bag, as the loop puts the weight waaaaaay out front. If the sweep is too much sweep, there&#039;s plenty of 20-25 degree options around. 

In any case, I&#039;m a big fan of Ergon grips for long distance touring, especially with a rigid setup. 

As for rack and panniers, I just borrowed what I could: a Planet X rack and Ortlieb rear rollers. I wouldn&#039;t recommend the Planet X rack as it spaces the rack out really wide for running discs on a standard MTB frame, which compromises the rigidity. Tucking the disc mounts between the stays, a la Ogre, means you should be able to run a standard rack. Given the way cable pull disc calipers jutt out (like BB7s), you still may need to space the rack leg out a little, so there&#039;s no rub against the back of the pannier. 

Given the choice, I&#039;d spend the extra cash and see if there was a Tubus rack that worked. The guys at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-rear-racks-c-30.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bikebagshop.com&lt;/a&gt; know their stuff and should be able help work out what fits best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t tried to Woodchippers, though I heard good things. The only potential issue I see is the extra reach you&#8217;d get from running a drop bar on a bike designed for flat bars &#8211; it might end up being quite a reach. And getting the height of the bars right so the drops are useful. Maybe you could experiment with a shorter stem, steeper stem.  </p>
<p>I prefer the aluminium H Loop bars over the Titecs, though they&#8217;re more expensive. As far as I know, these bars are wider too, and should work fine with rapid fire shifters. The downside of the design is if you want to run a bar bag, as the loop puts the weight waaaaaay out front. If the sweep is too much sweep, there&#8217;s plenty of 20-25 degree options around. </p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;m a big fan of Ergon grips for long distance touring, especially with a rigid setup. </p>
<p>As for rack and panniers, I just borrowed what I could: a Planet X rack and Ortlieb rear rollers. I wouldn&#8217;t recommend the Planet X rack as it spaces the rack out really wide for running discs on a standard MTB frame, which compromises the rigidity. Tucking the disc mounts between the stays, a la Ogre, means you should be able to run a standard rack. Given the way cable pull disc calipers jutt out (like BB7s), you still may need to space the rack leg out a little, so there&#8217;s no rub against the back of the pannier. </p>
<p>Given the choice, I&#8217;d spend the extra cash and see if there was a Tubus rack that worked. The guys at <a href="http://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-rear-racks-c-30.html" rel="nofollow">bikebagshop.com</a> know their stuff and should be able help work out what fits best.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Back in the Chihuahuan Desert: Bikepacking in Big Bend by While Out Riding</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[While Out Riding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be perfect over the summer. If you make it down to southern New Mexico, it might be pretty warm. But the rest will be just right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be perfect over the summer. If you make it down to southern New Mexico, it might be pretty warm. But the rest will be just right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lunar Exploration: Riding White Mesa, NM. by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info Cass, I&#039;m leading toward the Ogre.  I&#039;ve got an old life insurance policy that I&#039;m going to cash out to buy it.  Doesn&#039;t really do me a whole lot of good since it&#039;s only worth something when I&#039;m dead and at that point I wont be able to enjoy the bike, so it&#039;s kindof a no brainer!

Take care, I enjoy reading your updates.  Chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Cass, I&#8217;m leading toward the Ogre.  I&#8217;ve got an old life insurance policy that I&#8217;m going to cash out to buy it.  Doesn&#8217;t really do me a whole lot of good since it&#8217;s only worth something when I&#8217;m dead and at that point I wont be able to enjoy the bike, so it&#8217;s kindof a no brainer!</p>
<p>Take care, I enjoy reading your updates.  Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lunar Exploration: Riding White Mesa, NM. by Matthew Karsten</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Karsten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantastic shots Cass, looks like a great ride. I need to get on a bike again soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic shots Cass, looks like a great ride. I need to get on a bike again soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on gear by Christian Tenllado</title>
		<link>http://whileoutriding.com/kit/#comment-3250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Tenllado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi:

Very nice blog! Congratulations!

I just noticed that you have changed your chainset to a shimano slx with hollowtech II. I am in the process of building my own version of the troll, and would appreciate your review in comparison to a square taper build. Is the hollowtech II bb reliable? Does it requiere much maintainance? Did the troll frame need facing to install the hollowtech II?

Enjoy your cycling. 

Cheers.

Christian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi:</p>
<p>Very nice blog! Congratulations!</p>
<p>I just noticed that you have changed your chainset to a shimano slx with hollowtech II. I am in the process of building my own version of the troll, and would appreciate your review in comparison to a square taper build. Is the hollowtech II bb reliable? Does it requiere much maintainance? Did the troll frame need facing to install the hollowtech II?</p>
<p>Enjoy your cycling. </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>Christian.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot springs and Humperdinck: dirt roads to Idyllwild, CA by Nyingpo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gearing up for the continental divide.  Enjoy
Your travelogue, and glean useful tips with
Every installment.  Keep the spokes turning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gearing up for the continental divide.  Enjoy<br />
Your travelogue, and glean useful tips with<br />
Every installment.  Keep the spokes turning.</p>
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